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Manolo Luis Sanchez Rivera ([personal profile] matadorable) wrote in [community profile] maskormenacelogs2016-02-12 08:39 pm

Love Is All Around [Semi-Open]

WHO: Hermann Gottlieb, Newton Geiszler, Joaquin Mondragon, Manolo Sanchez, anyone else who happens to be in the area.
WHERE: The aquarium in Cape Canaveral, then later Heropa #15.
WHEN: Backdated to February 6th
WHAT: Belated birthday celebrations for Manolo's 20th, shenanigans ensue. Feel free to have your character bump into one or several of these nerds at the aquarium.
WARNINGS: There will probably be underage drinking.
mathemagier: u kno not 2 whom u spek (Peasant)

[personal profile] mathemagier 2016-02-13 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
Hermann hung back and let Newton do the talking. A biologist with a keen interest in marine life was unquestionably qualified to lead their little expedition through the aquarium and Manolo seemed fascinated. He followed at a sedate pace, not extraordinarily interested himself. They'd gone to an aquarium for Newton's birthday last month and the glow of blue in conjunction with the floor-to-ceiling tanks gave off the eerie impression of being on the ocean floor. Not a feeling he could properly appreciate any longer.

At the end of Newton's speech about the intelligence of the octupus, Hermann found himself standing with Manolo, and Newton and Joaquin were ahead looking at some other species that had caught the man's eye. Squid? Not important, as it suddenly occurred to Hermann that he'd barely said a word to Manolo through their entire visit so far. He fiddled with the handle of his cane.

"You know, I- I never did thank you for everything. The both of you have done so much for us these past several weeks. I don't know that Newton's said as much, but we do appreciate it."
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[personal profile] mathemagier 2016-02-13 06:32 am (UTC)(link)
Good friends? Newton moreso than himself recently. He'd gotten rather short with Joaquin despite the man's good intentions during Newton's kidnapping, and then that disagreement of sorts before.. Well no matter, this wasn't about that.

"You took excellent care of Liebling in our absence- on both counts. She may only be a cat, but I- well, I am very fond of her and it was a great relief not to be distracted while we were on vacation or while I was.. working." He winced, because he'd really pushed himself too far and inadvertently forced Joaquin and Manolo into looking after him.

"And I don't know that there's a greater gift than your music. Perhaps it lacks strength, but it still brought everyone listening a great deal of comfort during the kidnapping. Easing both pain and panic on a grand scale- there's not many capable of such a feat."
mathemagier: and try to sound less like an idiot (Repeat that please)

[personal profile] mathemagier 2016-02-21 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Hermann bit his tongue on the sharp response he wanted to follow up with, instead focusing on the floor and his cane. Manolo didn't deserve his self-directed ire, and it would surely draw Newton's attention.

"Yes." Science did save lives, his own personal failings aside. "Some believe that a hero is simply one that inspires strength in others, however. It's why charisma is so important in leaders. Speaking as one that lacks much in way of physical strength, I believe your music can be that sort of inspiration. In terms of respectability, well it's said that no one should judge a fish by its inability to climb a tree. In essence, that's not a standard you should hold yourself to."
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[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2016-02-13 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
Newt was brimming with information, most of which was vocalized loudly and excitedly, like he was giving his own private tour, and he relished in the attention of both his actual companions and other aquarium goers. For being a kid himself, he didn't claim to much like children, but managed to captivate the attention of one or two--inadvertently dragging them away from their parents--while giving an impromptu info-dump about the jellyfish and explaining how an octopus has three hearts (one pumps blood through the body and the other two pump blood through the gills) and that they might well be the most intelligent invertebrates (as smart as a the cats humans keep in their own homes).

He clearly favored the odder creatures, the 'monstrous' or 'alien-like' ones, though Newt was happy enough to talk about turtles and otters and penguins and game fish (he had a few Big Fish stories). But he really liked the jellies and the octopuses and was eager to show Joaquin in person a type of anglerfish that he had once sent him a picture of ("I told you, the stuff of nightmares, dude"). He did not bore easily when talking science, and could talk about the more mundane/less glamours topics(digestion, for example) with the same excitement and wonder as he did the more generally interesting trivia.

But for all his attention on the exhibits (and on Hermann...god, he looked really pretty awash in the swimming glow of some of the larger tank displays, and with the backdrop of the jellies? it was like he was adrift in Space), Newt could not miss that unmistakable look in Manolo's eyes, if only because he knew he was looking at Hermann almost the same way.

He leaned up against one of the pillars beside a tank and side-eyed Manolo before tapping his arm. "You know," he offered by way of lead-in, "the deep sea squid Octopoteuthis deletron is totally bisexual."
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[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2016-02-13 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
Newt let out a snort and had to remind himself that Manolo wasn't intentionally playing clueless...probably. He and Joaquin just came from a time predating the term.

"No, that's hermaphroditic--possessing both the male and female sex organs. For example, clownfish will change from male to female if the female of the species is removed--Hamlets will... You know, not the point. We'll save that for later." He shook his head and eyed Manolo closely as he defined the term at hand. "Broadly speaking, bisexual means having an interest in either gender...romantically, sexually--" Oh, to hell with it. What did he have to lose? "--Someone who is bisexual might, for example, love Maria, but also think Joaquin's pretty hot stuff, too."
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[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2016-02-13 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
"You'd be surprised how many things there are words for." He felt some sympathy and put a steadying hand on Manolo's arm awkwardly. That was not the most gentle way to be 'outed' but at least Joaquin and Hermann were busy and it was just between the two of them. "And define 'normal.' I think I recall reading somewhere that a little less than 2% of the population identifies as bisexual. Hermann will hate my math, but let's round up and say two people in a room of one-hundred would be like you--So you're a minority, if that's what you're concerned about, but minority doesn't necessarily mean it's wrong. The point is...it's not just octopuses."

He shoved his hands into his jacket pockets, found it impossible to talk with them in there and pulled them out again, toying with an old receipt. Well, okay, now that he'd opened this door, he had an obligation to Manolo to at least help, or something like it. And shit. He was not cut out for the 'you're gay and that's okay' speech, but-- Yeah, no, he could do this.

"Look: there are people who like chocolate. There are people who like vanilla. There are people, like you and Hermann, who like both, and people, like me, who honestly don't care if it's chocolate, vanilla, strawberry, or whatever, because ice cream is ice cream. And some people don't even like ice cream...at all! ...Okay, no, that analogy was crap--who doesn't like a couple of flavors of ice cream--but the point is, you love who you love, and if Joaquin's a flavor you love, well, I can't blame you--even if he is a bit of a dipshit sometimes."
Edited 2016-02-13 07:43 (UTC)
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[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2016-02-14 07:55 am (UTC)(link)
"A. If loving people is being greedy, I think we should all be greedy. There's no shame in loving people, right?" He ticked off a second finger as if counting his conversational points. "B. I am with a person who is bisexual and I WANT to be with him. I don't care that he thinks women are also attractive. First off, I do too, and secondly, I don't need him to be attracted to women, too, for me to get jealous." Which made him almost trail into a related but entirely different point. Did Manolo know about Joaquin's conversation the other day? Probably not. Better he didn't know. "Now, if you mean no one wants to be with someone who they have to share, that's still incorrect. Some do. I wouldn't want to share Hermann, but then I've NEVER shared Hermann. I feel like what Hermann and I are is a dynamic that works between the two of us and has no room for a third party. But it sounds to me like you and Maria and Joaquin have always sort of shared each other."

It actually sounded to Newt like the problems arose when they grew old enough and clearly (social rules and all) could NOT share each other anymore and then it had to become a competition. Or maybe it was always a love triangle, what did he know. And, okay, maybe, given the chance, Maria wouldn't want to share, or Joaquin wouldn't be interested (the idiot was kind of competitive), but that didn't mean the idea was dead in the water. It was a discussion the kids should actually have, because Newt had met a couple of threesomes in his time and it was not an impossible solution.

"So, okay. Okay, finish that sentence, Manolo. If they knew, what? They'd what? Have trouble wrapping their heads around the unconventional relationship? Maybe. Come around eventually, also maybe. What's the hang-up?"
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[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2016-02-14 10:41 am (UTC)(link)
"Manolo, listen to me," he pulled the other man by the arm, so they sort of huddled in, like they were plotting. He hoped Hermann and Joaquin didn't get too curious and come over and ask, because he wasn't up to explaining to EITHER what it was he and Manolo were talking about, and having to explain might just put Manolo off the idea forever. Just in case, he sent a glance their way, and they were still engaged in discussion by one of the larger tanks. "For the record?? You have a horrendously limited worldview. Just because you personally haven't met someone who does something doesn't mean it isn't done and done well. And I don't think you know what either unfaithful or promiscuous mean.

"The bisexual octopus? They're promiscuous. But NOT because they're bisexual. Bisexuality doesn't MAKE them promiscuous. The octopus is promiscuous because if they screw everything they run into, they stand a better chance of passing along their genetic material. It's biology; it's genetic survival. But 'bisexual' is an orientation; it's a...filter, showing you the things you MIGHT like--chocolate and vanilla. Now, just because you like vanilla and chocolate doesn't mean you're eating out of everyone's bowls--or, or, okay, here: if you let just anyone through your door--regardless of which way that door swings--that's promiscuous. But you want to give Maria and Joaquin keys and lock the door to anyone else, right? That's being faithful, Manolo. That's you telling them: you are who I want to spend the rest of my life with, and I won't look twice at anyone else because you two? You're just SO incredible. And that's a pretty potent statement."
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[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2016-02-28 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
The lucky one. The chosen one. Manolo wasn't someone anointed by the divine. He was just the guy whose crush the girl ended up reciprocating. Maria probably deserved sainthood for dealing with these numbskulls, but she wasn't the shining example of all that was good and awesome in this world. They needed to get her off that pedestal before she fell. But that wasn't Newt's concern. Or it wasn't something he could coach out of them.

Coach. What the hell was he doing giving life suggestions to anyone? Especially on love? When did he think he turned into an expert. And yet...and yet here he was.

"If he resents you, he's an idiot--and if he resents you for loving him, too, he's an absolute moron. Why is loving her AND him a problem? You're not leaving her for someone else. Or cheating on her. You're not lying to her. You're loving her AND someone else, with their blessing, I hope." Joaquin was a...piece of work. And Newt felt he could say that because he himself was a piece of work and knew it. But the man needed to stop thinking of this as losing. "He wants to 'win'--to feel chosen, I'm sure."

For Newt, that win had been his friendship with Hermann, back when they were pen-pals, when they truly connected and got along, and then it was Hermann again, choosing to go with him into the Hivemind, to save the world and to carry the load. It was that feeling again and again that, out of all 7.4 BILLION people in the world, someone picked him. He belonged. Someone liked him BEST. But it couldn't be a competition (even if Newt felt pretty sure he liked Hermann best out of everyone ever, and hoped Hermann felt the same) because there would always be better in one area or another enough to make him feel LESS. It seemed like Joaquin was ranking his love, or ranking theirs for them, and it was unfair to everyone involved. But, even so, there was some need to feel that 'I am number one' that Newt couldn't entirely fault him for. His thoughts weren't entirely sorted, but Newt was still talking, so...he hoped it didn't come out in too much of a jumble, for once.

"We ALL want to feel chosen, even when we THINK we don't, and Maria didn't choose him. So he's hurt, but she made her decision, neither you nor him should ask her to change it. And now you're making YOUR decision. ...So YOU will have to choose him. And Maria--choose her too--but make sure he knows you choose him?"
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[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2016-02-28 10:22 am (UTC)(link)
"Yes?"

Well, he and Hermann weren't great at that yet themselves, but they had the Drift going for them, and several very emotional, volatile conversations. Newt had learned, was learning again, that if you didn't talk to your partner and tell them things, it generally caused you problems down the road.

"If you aren't wholly honest with him, it could come back to bite you in the ass. Pace it? But...yeah. Tell him--maybe even say what worries you, too. And if he needs time, give him time?"
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[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2016-02-28 10:57 am (UTC)(link)
Manolo was nice, trying to guard rather awkward bit of information. Newt chewed his lower lip, glanced Hermann's way, then leaned in.

"Yeah, about that. Look, I'd support you anyway, so I don't want you to think I'm doing this just to--you know. And no, I don't think it's really too soon unless there's something more you know about this than I do. But do you honestly think he's in love with Hermann?" The question was laced with both doubt and worry--doubt that anyone could be in love with Hermann Gottlieb after only three months--and worry that someone could. "Or is it just fondness? I know he says he's not going to do anything--but he wanted me to marry Hermann, to get him off the market... If I don't...?"
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[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2016-02-28 11:53 am (UTC)(link)
Newt did not know a lot of things, but he had the good fortune (or bad) to be in a position to get told things, or be nosy enough to get people to tell him things, and sometimes he did wish he was less well-informed. Ignorance was probably bliss, but Newt actually...didn't like being ignorant, so maybe it wasn't so blissful depending on disposition. But god, sometimes the information he had was not something he liked.

The reassurances didn't quite do it for him, because Newt didn't put a ton of faith in their history, really, not with how rocky it was. They had the Drift, though, now. Maybe that would tip the scales in their favor.

"What did I--? I, uh, don't...remember. I know I got kind of pissed because he sounded like he wanted to steal Hermann if I didn't marry him. Pissed and panicked, honestly," Newt jiggled his leg nervously, shifting weight. He wasn't sure why he was telling Manolo this, but Joaquin didn't count, he couldn't tell Hermann, and it felt weird to involve Qubit in this drama. Which left Manolo and Hiro and Hiro was still just a kid. Besides, Manolo could possibly offer insight and at least he wasn't betraying Joaquin's trust, making it more awkward and awful for himself, and spreading this around. "I'm not--I wasn't prepared to make that kind of decision so soon if it meant keeping Hermann or having someone else vie for his attention. I might have ranted--it was off the cuff, okay--but I guess I told him to shove it and then said sorry, and he sort of convinced me to talk to Hermann...and think about it."
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[personal profile] driftsintobuffetline 2016-02-28 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
"Yeah, I... I don't think he's really that big of an ass. But how long do you think his restraint can hold up,? I mean, Joaquin has only known us since the end of October, and I've only been dating Hermann since the end of November, and he's already pushing this, well, sort of ultimatum. He says he knows he doesn't have a shot, but when's that stopped anyone? Is he going to lose patience and start on this again in another couple of months? What if Hermann and I have a fight...?"

Newt swore he wasn't insecure, and he should not be dumping this on Manolo while they're in public, if at all, but...he wasn't entirely certain that someday, somewhere down the road, Hermann wouldn't say yes if Joaquin made an offer. Newt's own parents had cheated on marriage, and though he thought the world of Hermann, thought him very devoted, the man was human and Joaquin was hot. It scared him to think he might not even be able to keep the love of the man who mattered most. He fidgited, attention drawn to the tank beside them, to some tiny fish among the main display.

"He believes enough in the sanctity of marriage or some shit to actually stand down if I put an engagement ring on Hermann? Or does it have to be a wedding?" He twisted his pinky ring. "Because... I really want to spend my life with Hermann, but these things take time."
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[personal profile] medalsome 2016-03-05 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
It was fun, lots of fun, actually. Looking at fish was hella more fun with the scientists in tow and Manolo jumping from tank to tank with all that wonder on his face, listening to Newt drone on about various marine life while Hermann hobbled along behind them at a slower pace. It wasn't much, but it certainly made up for the nonexistence of Manolo's actual birthday. It was nice to be among friends.

It struck Joaquin when they passed a young family that this was perhaps Manolo's first time to have a birthday without his father beside him. That had to be hard for him. The Sanchezes were a close-knit family and family was important. Joaquin would know.

When he had a moment to just himself and Manolo, Newt having run off with Hermann to find the bathrooms and grab some water bottles for parched throats, Joaquin sidled over and came to a stop next to his friend. Manolo's eyes were fixed on the tank before them, a huge one that went deep, full of cohabitating fish. There was even a large turtle in there, bigger than most dogs could get.

He didn't have much to say, but he'd figure it out. They had time, all the time in the world. "... It's pretty. This was a good idea."
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i see what you did there...

[personal profile] medalsome 2016-03-06 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
The way Manolo just lit up warmed Joaquin's heart. After last month, and skipping his actual birthday, Manolo deserved to have a good time. "We should. I'm sure he'll say it's not a problem and no thanks are needed."

Newt was just that kind of guy.

The total affection in Manolo's gaze took Joaquin aback and after a pause, he reached over and clapped Manolo on the shoulder. "Hey, I'd not miss your birthday for the world. I'm glad I could be here. And.... I'm happy you're having fun."
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[personal profile] medalsome 2016-03-06 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
"Or you would have needed to tell someone, because they would probably have seemed crazy," Joaquin snorts. The hand he has on Manolo's shoulder tightens in a gentle squeeze. "But yeah, I'm glad it happened, even if it is crazy."

He shakes his head and chuckles. "This could all be a dream, but it's a nice dream for the most part. I'm glad you're a part of my life here, too."

Joaquin wouldn't have stomached this place alone quite so well. Yes, he would have survived, but it would have been pretty grim just living on his own without Manolo there to cheer him up.
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[personal profile] medalsome 2016-03-06 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Well, that was... Joaquin gives a short, mild chuckle. Totally nonchalant. "Sure, sure..." Not touching that whole 'crazy' thing.

Joaquin instead focuses on what Manolo says next, continuing to feel touched by his friend's words. The backdrop of the tank reflected blue light off of Manolo's face, and something about that look just seemed so... Joaquin felt a sudden need to protect Manolo from everything and everyone. God, it was so hard to not want to just tell him to always stay home and stay safe, so they could keep having days like this forever.

"You're right. I'm sure you're right, even." He turned away to look back at the tank, contemplative. "... I didn't really get you anything for your birthday."
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[personal profile] medalsome 2016-03-06 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
"I guess so," Joaquin mumbled, though he wondered if it was enough. Even if he did spoil Manolo a little, it didn't seem like much of a price to see him smile so often. "... you're easy to spoil. You like everything."

His thoughts turned towards animals. Not exotic fish but pets. Manolo would like one, Joaquin was sure, but he didn't want to just get his friend a dog or a cat without his input. Maybe later they could stop by a shelter or something. Just the two of them. Maybe not even today, but someday.
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[personal profile] medalsome 2016-03-06 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
"Hey, if I'm going to take credit then I can't just take a little. I'm taking it all!" And he laughed, bumping Manolo back gently. That was just the kind of guy he was, really. All or nothing.

As far as salvaging friendships went, Joaquin counted himself as lucky. He really didn't believe he deserved to be cared for quite to the extent that Manolo seemed to care, or that Newt and Hermann cared, even. He was a pretty terrible person, but he was a terrible person that Manolo was willing to like despite his flaws. That's all he needed to know.

"You should think about what you want for dinner. I'm sure we could convince Hermann and Newt to hang around long enough to eat afterward, at least." A pause. "... I'm glad you became friends with them, too. It's nice to have friends we both enjoy and share."
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[personal profile] medalsome 2016-03-06 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
Give him an inch and he'll take a mile! But at least he was honest.

"I don't think they have. As far as I know, they've never lived in Heropa." He shrugs. "I don't know where they go when they do visit here, but probably not that specific restaurant. I'm sure they'll like it." It was like a little slice of home. Joaquin wanted to share a lot with Hermann and Newt. They were, in a sense, family as well.

Joaquin rolled his eyes, releasing a puff of air. "Well, I can't take all the credit for that. Newt was the one who first hit me up on the communicator. A joke went out of control and we just..." He shrugs, chuckling. Now some of that joke had become reality, but they both still lived to tease the heck out of each other. That's what made them such good friends.
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[personal profile] medalsome 2016-03-06 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
The shift in conversation was not the most comfortable topic to settle on, but if anyone deserved to know the whole story it was Manolo. Joaquin glanced around. Newton and Hermann had returned but they seemed to have drifted off together, looking over another tank some distance away while Newton chatted on and Hermann humored him by listening to... well, whatever it was he was saying about marine life. They were far enough away that he doubted they would be eavesdropping.

"... It's funny, it was an announcement for the calendar sign-ups. You know, the one I volunteered to get pictures done for?" That calendar. "Well... he sort of used it as an excuse to set me up on a date with Hermann. And it was a joke but it kind of..." Joaquin shrugs. "We ended up at the masquerade Ambassador Urquhart thew back in October, and we just... hit it off."
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[personal profile] medalsome 2016-03-06 04:04 am (UTC)(link)
Joaquin nodded, still a little disappointed Hermann had never taken him up on the offer. Dancing probably wasn't easy for Hermann but it would have been fun...

He shrugged. "You might have to ask Newt about that sometime. I think he just thought it would be funny to take the guy boasting about being great for the HimPorts calendar down a peg. And I think he believed I wouldn't take up the offer, or else I'd just make a buffoon of myself. Or..." he hummed, shrugging again, "I dunno. I'm pretty sure I... match Hermann's type as far as looks are concerned. Maybe he just wanted to make his friend have a little fun?"

A third shrug. He really wasn't sure anymore. "... I ended up scolding Newt later that night about it. It wasn't very funny in the long run, as far as jokes were concerned. I think he was just lucky things worked out well instead of turning sour."
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[personal profile] medalsome 2016-03-07 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
"No, I'm sure he's not," Joaquin agreed but he couldn't let Manolo get all down about it. He smiled and tugged his friend closer, angling him so he could get a better look at Newt and Hermann down the way.

Newt had gotten an arm around Hermann's waist and there was just the slightest upturn of Hermann's lips. "But just look at them now. I don't think we need to worry about Newt making that mistake again."

They were really cute together, really. Sometimes Joaquin felt angry in his envy but today he was just a little wistful.