[Oh, definitely partial defeat. Mostly defeat, really. Poor Rincewind, but to be fair, he started talking first.

Betty... shrugs. And nods as though he is making a very good point, which he is. Safety is... important. She makes placating gestures, which may not be wholly convincing.]

Sorry, sorry, it follows that if we shouldn't touch it, climbing inside would be out of the question, even for its owner. [There are things man isn't meant to know, but proper terror holds back progress. A beat, and then like she can't help it,] ...But inanimate objects come back out?

[She should probably buy him a drink after this.]