[He smiles quietly, leaning his chin in his hand.]

He was like, "it's an energy transfer!" or something. I don't know. I'm not a science type, so I ... don't really remember. I'm sure he'd be happy to reiterate.

I don't know what his definition of 'magic' is. I think that's part of the misunderstanding here. It's just something that comes with the Keyblade.