St. Ambrose always considered Mary the "Rose without a Thorn" in tribute to that. I don't know how he knew, we never told any of them anything. We lost a lot when we shut the garden down but...the city is better.

[He believes that and he sits up.] ...That's their right. Flowers are in their dominion.

...I think one day. Not now but when I figure things out if I - ever do I would like to ask you about your experiences.

I do not trust you but I would like more information.

[It's said in a blank very serious tone.]

Not today. Maybe not ever. But one day. When I...know more about what I have to do.